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Mo, 05 Dezember 2005 18:23 |
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Mo, 05 Dezember 2005 18:57 |
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Stan Jensen wrote:
> As for what he would do in his version of a Star Trek movie? "[That's]
> a longer story," he said. "It would involve ... it would be big. It
> would be very big."
Bring back Kirk!
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OSI
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| Re: - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179823 ] |
Mo, 05 Dezember 2005 21:02 |
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OSI wrote:
> Stan Jensen wrote:
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> > As for what he would do in his version of a Star Trek movie? "[That's]
> > a longer story," he said. "It would involve ... it would be big. It
> > would be very big."
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> Bring back Kirk!
This isn't comic books. Star Trek has at least some credibility.
Mark Moore
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| Re: - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179828 ] |
Mo, 05 Dezember 2005 22:57 |
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spiritofsupergirl [at] hotmail.com wrote:
>>Bring back Kirk!
>
> This isn't comic books. Star Trek has at least some credibility.
Um... Have you /seen/ Search for Spock?! :-/
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OSI
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179832 ] |
Mo, 05 Dezember 2005 23:33 |
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> Now, I'm just passing this along. DOn't anyone get their hopes up.
> Paramount is still not loking to do anything with Trek in the
> foreseeable future...
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> Singer Considers Trek Movie
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> Bryan Singer, an avowed Star Trek fan, told SCI FI Wire that he's
> thought about directing a Trek movie. "I'm a huge fan," Singer said in
> an interview at the Nov. 30 premiere of the SCI FI Channel's upcoming
> original miniseries The Triangle, which he executive-produced with
> Dean Devlin.
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> Singer added: "We're huge Trekkies. And we've always talked about what
> we would do, and what would I do, if I were to make a film in that
> universe."
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> It's unclear when or if Paramount will mount another Trek film, since
> its last effort, Star Trek: Nemesis, did poorly at the box office and
> the last Trek series, Star Trek: Enterprise, was canceled after
> drawing low ratings.
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> Singer has kept a strong link with the Trek universe. He made a cameo
> appearance in Nemesis. He also worked on the last two X-Men films with
> The Next Generation's Patrick Stewart (Jean-Luc Picard). Singer is
> currently finishing Superman Returns and is working on his next
> project, an update of the SF movie Logan's Run.
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> "Again, you know, it's the same thing: X-Men, Superman, Logan's Run,
> all these things: There are these incredible universes, really,"
> Singer said, adding: "You kind of wish you could play in them all. I
> mean, I got to do a cameo in the last Star Trek film; that was a
> thrill. I got to be on the Enterprise when it was under attack."
>
> As for what he would do in his version of a Star Trek movie? "[That's]
> a longer story," he said. "It would involve ... it would be big. It
> would be very big."
Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of
ten limited budget Trek films by different well known directors,
and run them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors
do whatever stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek
special effects team at the disposal of the different directors as
their films came up, so all the films would have a nice, uniform
look and feel. It would be fascinating to see what fresh minds
would do with the Trek universe.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179836 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 00:51 |
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In article <Ue3lf.134751$Ph4.4118727 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>, Al Smith
<invalid [at] address.com> wrote:
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> It would be fascinating to see what fresh minds
> would do with the Trek universe.
That's what we got with Beavis & Butthead, and Star Trek ended up going
down the toilet. :-(
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179841 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 01:19 |
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179842 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 01:33 |
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"Keeper of the Purple Twilight" <no [at] spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:2005120518190016807%no [at] spaminvalid...
> On 2005-12-05 16:33:24 -0600, Al Smith <invalid [at] address.com> said:
> That Guy Who Directed 'Moulin Rouge' And The Weird LeoDiCaprio Version
> Of Romeo & Juliet: "Fish Jokes A-Go-Go"
That would be Baz Luhrmann of "Everybody's Free (To Wear Sunscreen)" fame.
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/bazluhrmannsunscree n.htm
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Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179844 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 01:54 |
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>> Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of ten limited budget Trek films by different well known directors, and run them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors do whatever stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek special effects team at the disposal of the different directors as their films came up, so all the films would have a nice, uniform look and feel. It would be fascinating to see what fresh minds would do with the Trek universe
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> Quentin Tarantino: "Kill Trill"
> David Lynch: "Eraserforehead"
> Spike Jonze: "Being William Shatner"
> Elia Kazan: "Klingon The Waterfront"
> Steve Smith: "The Red Green (blood) Show"
> Roland Emmerich: "The Stardate After Tomorrow"
> George Lucas: "The (Terran) Empire Strikes Back"
> Steven Spielberg: "Close Encounters of the Vulcan Kind"
> Stanley Kubrick (yeah, yeah, I know he's dead, I just don't give a trout): "Spatial Anomalies Wide Shut" or "2001: A Space Odo-ssey"
> That Guy Who Directed 'Moulin Rouge' And The Weird LeoDiCaprio Version Of Romeo & Juliet: "Fish Jokes A-Go-Go"
A worthy list, noteworthy for its randomness. Let me see if I can
come up with a list of my own that is equally irrelevant. Now
watch, as I gather ten directors into my shining silver net.
1) Chris Carter: "The Third Moon"
2) Joss Whedon: "Rebirth of the Federation"
3) Peter Jackson: "Attack from Andromeda"
4) Brian DePalma: "Their Myriad Wicked Ways"
5) Wes Craven: "Light of a Dark Sun"
6) John Carpenter: "Landrew Returns"
7) James Cameron: "Space Eaters"
8) Michael Mann: "The Farpoint Affair"
9) Ron Howard: "Klingons Do Cry"
10) Terry Gilliam: "The End of Everything"
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| Trekkie, the term Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179846 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 01:58 |
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Stan Jensen wrote:
> Bryan Singer, an avowed Star Trek fan, told SCI FI Wire that he's
> thought about directing a Trek movie. "I'm a huge fan," Singer said in
> an interview at the Nov. 30 premiere of the SCI FI Channel's upcoming
> original miniseries The Triangle, which he executive-produced with
> Dean Devlin.
>
> Singer added: "We're huge Trekkies. And we've always talked about what
> we would do, and what would I do, if I were to make a film in that
> universe."
NOTE: He calls himself a TREKKIE, ~not a "Trekker".
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179847 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 01:59 |
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OSI wrote:
> Bring back Kirk!
LOL ::highfive!:: :)
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| Re: - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179848 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 02:00 |
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OSI wrote:
> spiritofsupergirl [at] hotmail.com wrote:
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>>> Bring back Kirk!
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>> This isn't comic books. Star Trek has at least some credibility.
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> Um... Have you /seen/ Search for Spock?! :-/
Kirk _could_ come back. Did you read Shatner's The Return?
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179849 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 02:01 |
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Al Smith wrote:
> Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of ten
> limited budget Trek films by different well known directors, and run
> them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors do whatever
> stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek special effects team
> at the disposal of the different directors as their films came up, so
> all the films would have a nice, uniform look and feel. It would be
> fascinating to see what fresh minds would do with the Trek universe.
That's actually a very cool idea! :)
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179850 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 02:02 |
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Keeper of the Purple Twilight wrote:
> On 2005-12-05 16:33:24 -0600, Al Smith <invalid [at] address.com> said:
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>>>
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>> Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of ten
>> limited budget Trek films by different well known directors, and run
>> them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors do whatever
>> stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek special effects
>> team at the disposal of the different directors as their films came
>> up, so all the films would have a nice, uniform look and feel. It
>> would be fascinating to see what fresh minds would do with the Trek
>> universe
>
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> Quentin Tarantino: "Kill Trill"
> David Lynch: "Eraserforehead"
> Spike Jonze: "Being William Shatner"
> Elia Kazan: "Klingon The Waterfront"
> Steve Smith: "The Red Green (blood) Show"
ROFL!
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179851 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 02:03 |
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Al Smith wrote:
> 1) Chris Carter: "The Third Moon"
> 2) Joss Whedon: "Rebirth of the Federation"
> 3) Peter Jackson: "Attack from Andromeda"
> 4) Brian DePalma: "Their Myriad Wicked Ways"
> 5) Wes Craven: "Light of a Dark Sun"
> 6) John Carpenter: "Landrew Returns"
> 7) James Cameron: "Space Eaters"
> 8) Michael Mann: "The Farpoint Affair"
> 9) Ron Howard: "Klingons Do Cry"
> 10) Terry Gilliam: "The End of Everything"
LOL! ::applause!::
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179852 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 04:06 |
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>> Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of ten limited budget Trek films by different well known directors, and run them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors do whatever stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek special effects team at the disposal of the different directors as their films came up, so all the films would have a nice, uniform look and feel. It would be fascinating to see what fresh minds would do with the Trek universe.
>
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> That's actually a very cool idea! :)
Thank you. Let's hope some eager young Paramont flunky is reading
this group, and decides to steal my idea and use it for his/her
own career advancement. We might see some decent Trek.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179853 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 04:14 |
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In article <AIGdnYII1ZVUfwnenZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d [at] comcast.com>,
ToolPackinMama <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
> Al Smith wrote:
>
> > Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of ten
> > limited budget Trek films by different well known directors, and run
> > them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors do whatever
> > stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek special effects team
> > at the disposal of the different directors as their films came up, so
> > all the films would have a nice, uniform look and feel. It would be
> > fascinating to see what fresh minds would do with the Trek universe.
>
> That's actually a very cool idea! :)
It's actually stolen from the novels, although the writers there do
have a very tight set of rules rather than complete free reign to screw
up the franchise even further.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179854 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 04:17 |
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Al Smith wrote:
>>> Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of ten
>>> limited budget Trek films by different well known directors, and run
>>> them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors do
>>> whatever stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek special
>>> effects team at the disposal of the different directors as their
>>> films came up, so all the films would have a nice, uniform look and
>>> feel. It would be fascinating to see what fresh minds would do with
>>> the Trek universe.
>>
>>
>>
>> That's actually a very cool idea! :)
>
>
> Thank you. Let's hope some eager young Paramont flunky is reading this
> group, and decides to steal my idea and use it for his/her own career
> advancement. We might see some decent Trek.
If only they actually would "steal" some (freely offered) ideas from
fans. We would all be better off.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179855 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 04:19 |
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Anybody wrote:
> In article <AIGdnYII1ZVUfwnenZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d [at] comcast.com>,
> ToolPackinMama <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Al Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of ten
>>>limited budget Trek films by different well known directors, and run
>>>them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors do whatever
>>>stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek special effects team
>>>at the disposal of the different directors as their films came up, so
>>>all the films would have a nice, uniform look and feel. It would be
>>>fascinating to see what fresh minds would do with the Trek universe.
>>
>>That's actually a very cool idea! :)
>
>
> It's actually stolen from the novels
What a weird thing to say. I can't imagine what you mean.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179859 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 04:41 |
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"Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:061220051614558876%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <AIGdnYII1ZVUfwnenZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d [at] comcast.com>,
> ToolPackinMama <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>
> > Al Smith wrote:
> >
> > > Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of ten
> > > limited budget Trek films by different well known directors, and run
> > > them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors do whatever
> > > stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek special effects
team
> > > at the disposal of the different directors as their films came up, so
> > > all the films would have a nice, uniform look and feel. It would be
> > > fascinating to see what fresh minds would do with the Trek universe.
> >
> > That's actually a very cool idea! :)
>
> It's actually stolen from the novels, although the writers there do
> have a very tight set of rules rather than complete free reign to screw
> up the franchise even further.
I hope "Anybody" gets to run Star Trek 'cause he knows everything.
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Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179865 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 06:02 |
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Keeper of the Purple Twilight wrote:
> On 2005-12-05 21:17:51 -0600, ToolPackinMama <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> said:
>
>> Al Smith wrote:
>>
>>>>> Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of
>>>>> ten limited budget Trek films by different well known directors,
>>>>> and run them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors
>>>>> do whatever stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek
>>>>> special effects team at the disposal of the different directors as
>>>>> their films came up, so all the films would have a nice, uniform
>>>>> look and feel. It would be fascinating to see what fresh minds
>>>>> would do with the Trek universe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's actually a very cool idea! :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you. Let's hope some eager young Paramont flunky is reading
>>> this group, and decides to steal my idea and use it for his/her own
>>> career advancement. We might see some decent Trek.
>>
>>
>> If only they actually would "steal" some (freely offered) ideas from
>> fans. We would all be better off.
>
>
> They are legally prevented from doing so, AFAIK they could get sued if
> they do that.
> Which is why none of the authors ever frequent these NGs.
But that is absurd! You can't patent/copyright a "concept"!
If they refuse to use anything that fans might have had a say in, then
no wonder so little of what they do pleases fans.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179866 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 06:19 |
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In article <wqedncS7J4PxhgjeRVn-hg [at] comcast.com>, ToolPackinMama
<laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
> Keeper of the Purple Twilight wrote:
> > On 2005-12-05 21:17:51 -0600, ToolPackinMama <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> said:
> >
> >> Al Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of
> >>>>> ten limited budget Trek films by different well known directors,
> >>>>> and run them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors
> >>>>> do whatever stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek
> >>>>> special effects team at the disposal of the different directors as
> >>>>> their films came up, so all the films would have a nice, uniform
> >>>>> look and feel. It would be fascinating to see what fresh minds
> >>>>> would do with the Trek universe.
> >>>>
> >>>> That's actually a very cool idea! :)
> >>>
> >>> Thank you. Let's hope some eager young Paramont flunky is reading
> >>> this group, and decides to steal my idea and use it for his/her own
> >>> career advancement. We might see some decent Trek.
> >>
> >> If only they actually would "steal" some (freely offered) ideas from
> >> fans. We would all be better off.
> >
> > They are legally prevented from doing so, AFAIK they could get sued if
> > they do that.
> > Which is why none of the authors ever frequent these NGs.
>
> But that is absurd! You can't patent/copyright a "concept"!
That depends on how detailed you make it.
You obvious can't patent "device to breath underwater", but you can
patent / copyright "device to breath underwater utilising sponges and
grape jelly". Anyone who then makes a product using sponges and grape
jelly for breathing underwater could be in trouble.
Apple Computer (among others) patents concepts galore, many of which it
never uses or has any intention of using.
If you were to described a detailed storyline that then later turned on
on TV identically or "close enough", then the person claiming it as
there own would be in serious trouble (assuming you can prove you came
up with it first).
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179867 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 06:20 |
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In article <YLudneV5YKiEngjeRVn-qA [at] comcast.com>, ToolPackinMama
<laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
> Anybody wrote:
> > In article <AIGdnYII1ZVUfwnenZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d [at] comcast.com>,
> > ToolPackinMama <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Al Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of ten
> >>>limited budget Trek films by different well known directors, and run
> >>>them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors do whatever
> >>>stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek special effects team
> >>>at the disposal of the different directors as their films came up, so
> >>>all the films would have a nice, uniform look and feel. It would be
> >>>fascinating to see what fresh minds would do with the Trek universe.
> >>
> >>That's actually a very cool idea! :)
> >
> >
> > It's actually stolen from the novels
>
> What a weird thing to say. I can't imagine what you mean.
It called "Strange New Worlds" and has been run for a few years now.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179868 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 06:21 |
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"Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:061220051819158374%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <wqedncS7J4PxhgjeRVn-hg [at] comcast.com>, ToolPackinMama
> <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>
> > Keeper of the Purple Twilight wrote:
> > > On 2005-12-05 21:17:51 -0600, ToolPackinMama <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org>
said:
> > >
> > >> Al Smith wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>>> Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of
> > >>>>> ten limited budget Trek films by different well known directors,
> > >>>>> and run them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors
> > >>>>> do whatever stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek
> > >>>>> special effects team at the disposal of the different directors as
> > >>>>> their films came up, so all the films would have a nice, uniform
> > >>>>> look and feel. It would be fascinating to see what fresh minds
> > >>>>> would do with the Trek universe.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> That's actually a very cool idea! :)
> > >>>
> > >>> Thank you. Let's hope some eager young Paramont flunky is reading
> > >>> this group, and decides to steal my idea and use it for his/her own
> > >>> career advancement. We might see some decent Trek.
> > >>
> > >> If only they actually would "steal" some (freely offered) ideas from
> > >> fans. We would all be better off.
> > >
> > > They are legally prevented from doing so, AFAIK they could get sued if
> > > they do that.
> > > Which is why none of the authors ever frequent these NGs.
> >
> > But that is absurd! You can't patent/copyright a "concept"!
>
> That depends on how detailed you make it.
>
> You obvious can't patent "device to breath underwater", but you can
> patent / copyright "device to breath underwater utilising sponges and
> grape jelly". Anyone who then makes a product using sponges and grape
> jelly for breathing underwater could be in trouble.
>
> Apple Computer (among others) patents concepts galore, many of which it
> never uses or has any intention of using.
>
> If you were to described a detailed storyline that then later turned on
> on TV identically or "close enough", then the person claiming it as
> there own would be in serious trouble (assuming you can prove you came
> up with it first).
There you have it, the definitive answer form "Anybody" (he's so s-m-r-t)
--
Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179869 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 06:25 |
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Anybody wrote:
> In article <YLudneV5YKiEngjeRVn-qA [at] comcast.com>, ToolPackinMama
> <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Anybody wrote:
>>
>>>In article <AIGdnYII1ZVUfwnenZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d [at] comcast.com>,
>>>ToolPackinMama <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Al Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of ten
>>>>>limited budget Trek films by different well known directors, and run
>>>>>them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors do whatever
>>>>>stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek special effects team
>>>>>at the disposal of the different directors as their films came up, so
>>>>>all the films would have a nice, uniform look and feel. It would be
>>>>>fascinating to see what fresh minds would do with the Trek universe.
>>>>
>>>>That's actually a very cool idea! :)
>>>
>>>
>>>It's actually stolen from the novels
>>
>>What a weird thing to say. I can't imagine what you mean.
>
>
> It called "Strange New Worlds" and has been run for a few years now.
The very idea of an anthology is not new, dude.
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Di, 06 Dezember 2005 06:27 |
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Di, 06 Dezember 2005 06:45 |
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Keeper of the Purple Twilight wrote:
> On 2005-12-05 23:02:51 -0600, ToolPackinMama <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> said:
>
>> Keeper of the Purple Twilight wrote:
>>
>>> On 2005-12-05 21:17:51 -0600, ToolPackinMama <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org>
>>> said:
>>>
>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If only they actually would "steal" some (freely offered) ideas from
>>>> fans. We would all be better off.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They are legally prevented from doing so, AFAIK they could get sued
>>> if they do that.
>>> Which is why none of the authors ever frequent these NGs.
>>
>>
>> But that is absurd! You can't patent/copyright a "concept"!
>
>
> Usually the terms "lawyers" and "absurd" go hand in hand. :)
Seriously, no writer who ever lived was ever NOT INFLUENCED. We are all
influenced by each other. I don't beleive that "inspiration" and
"influence" are actionable!
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179872 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 07:13 |
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In article <wqedne67J4NRvQjeRVn-hg [at] comcast.com>, ToolPackinMama
<laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
> Anybody wrote:
> > In article <YLudneV5YKiEngjeRVn-qA [at] comcast.com>, ToolPackinMama
> > <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
> >
> >>Anybody wrote:
> >>
> >>>In article <AIGdnYII1ZVUfwnenZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d [at] comcast.com>,
> >>>ToolPackinMama <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Al Smith wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of ten
> >>>>>limited budget Trek films by different well known directors, and run
> >>>>>them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors do whatever
> >>>>>stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek special effects team
> >>>>>at the disposal of the different directors as their films came up, so
> >>>>>all the films would have a nice, uniform look and feel. It would be
> >>>>>fascinating to see what fresh minds would do with the Trek universe.
> >>>>
> >>>>That's actually a very cool idea! :)
> >>>
> >>>It's actually stolen from the novels
> >>
> >>What a weird thing to say. I can't imagine what you mean.
> >
> > It called "Strange New Worlds" and has been run for a few years now.
>
> The very idea of an anthology is not new, dude.
Good grief! :-\
Not the "anthology" part - the part about getting different people to
write their own Star Trek stories.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179873 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 07:21 |
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"Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Vd9lf.50021$ki.11822 [at] pd7tw2no...
> "Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> news:061220051819158374%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
>> In article <wqedncS7J4PxhgjeRVn-hg [at] comcast.com>, ToolPackinMama
>> <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Keeper of the Purple Twilight wrote:
>> > > On 2005-12-05 21:17:51 -0600, ToolPackinMama <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org>
> said:
>> > >
>> > >> Al Smith wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>>>> Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of
>> > >>>>> ten limited budget Trek films by different well known directors,
>> > >>>>> and run them as a miniseries on television. Just let the
>> > >>>>> directors
>> > >>>>> do whatever stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek
>> > >>>>> special effects team at the disposal of the different directors
>> > >>>>> as
>> > >>>>> their films came up, so all the films would have a nice, uniform
>> > >>>>> look and feel. It would be fascinating to see what fresh minds
>> > >>>>> would do with the Trek universe.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> That's actually a very cool idea! :)
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thank you. Let's hope some eager young Paramont flunky is reading
>> > >>> this group, and decides to steal my idea and use it for his/her own
>> > >>> career advancement. We might see some decent Trek.
>> > >>
>> > >> If only they actually would "steal" some (freely offered) ideas from
>> > >> fans. We would all be better off.
>> > >
>> > > They are legally prevented from doing so, AFAIK they could get sued
>> > > if
>> > > they do that.
>> > > Which is why none of the authors ever frequent these NGs.
>> >
>> > But that is absurd! You can't patent/copyright a "concept"!
>>
>> That depends on how detailed you make it.
>>
>> You obvious can't patent "device to breath underwater", but you can
>> patent / copyright "device to breath underwater utilising sponges and
>> grape jelly". Anyone who then makes a product using sponges and grape
>> jelly for breathing underwater could be in trouble.
>>
>> Apple Computer (among others) patents concepts galore, many of which it
>> never uses or has any intention of using.
>>
>> If you were to described a detailed storyline that then later turned on
>> on TV identically or "close enough", then the person claiming it as
>> there own would be in serious trouble (assuming you can prove you came
>> up with it first).
>
> There you have it, the definitive answer form "Anybody" (he's so s-m-r-t)
You know, I never had a problem with him until he started calling me and
others (on a different group) trolls, just because we did not agree with
him. Now, I look at what he writes and feel bad for him. He obviously has
nothing to do other then bitch and moan about anything and everything.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179874 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 07:24 |
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"Al Smith" <invalid [at] address.com> wrote in message
news:Ue3lf.134751$Ph4.4118727 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
<Snip>
> Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of ten
> limited budget Trek films by different well known directors, and run them
> as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors do whatever stories
> they wanted to do. They could put the Trek special effects team at the
> disposal of the different directors as their films came up, so all the
> films would have a nice, uniform look and feel. It would be fascinating to
> see what fresh minds would do with the Trek universe.
I honestly think that is a great idea. After the ten or so movies have been
made and shown on TV, Paramount can have a huge vote by the fans as to which
movie to turn into a new series. Who knows, maybe we could find another
awesome Trek.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179875 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 08:22 |
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>>>>> Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of ten limited budget Trek films by different well known directors, and run them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors do whatever stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek special effects team at the disposal of the different directors as their films came up, so all the films would have a nice, uniform look and feel. It would be fascinating to see what fresh minds would do with the Trek universe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's actually a very cool idea! :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you. Let's hope some eager young Paramont flunky is reading this group, and decides to steal my idea and use it for his/her own career advancement. We might see some decent Trek.
>>
>>
>> If only they actually would "steal" some (freely offered) ideas from fans. We would all be better off.
>
>
> They are legally prevented from doing so, AFAIK they could get sued if they do that.
> Which is why none of the authors ever frequent these NGs.
Yeah, but I'm talking about some lowlife assistant to some
producer, who is so desperate for material, but so brain dead,
they'll do anything for a new idea. I've had my ideas stolen by
television series before, so I know it can happen. I never
particularly minded them being used. After all, it's not as if I
could sprinkle salt on them and eat them. They were no use to me.
I have no trouble coming up with fresh ideas.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179876 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 08:25 |
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Anybody wrote:
> In article <wqedne67J4NRvQjeRVn-hg [at] comcast.com>, ToolPackinMama
> <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>>The very idea of an anthology is not new, dude.
>
>
> Good grief! :-\
>
> Not the "anthology" part - the part about getting different people to
> write their own Star Trek stories.
Oh, you mean like in TOS?
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179877 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 09:31 |
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"80 Knight" <80_knightREMOVEME [at] rogers.com> wrote in message
news:_fOdnegbmbefswjeRVn-uQ [at] rogers.com...
> "Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:Vd9lf.50021$ki.11822 [at] pd7tw2no...
> > "Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> > news:061220051819158374%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> >> In article <wqedncS7J4PxhgjeRVn-hg [at] comcast.com>, ToolPackinMama
> >> <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Keeper of the Purple Twilight wrote:
> >> > > On 2005-12-05 21:17:51 -0600, ToolPackinMama
<laura [at] lauragoodwin.org>
> > said:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Al Smith wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>>>> Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series
of
> >> > >>>>> ten limited budget Trek films by different well known
directors,
> >> > >>>>> and run them as a miniseries on television. Just let the
> >> > >>>>> directors
> >> > >>>>> do whatever stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek
> >> > >>>>> special effects team at the disposal of the different directors
> >> > >>>>> as
> >> > >>>>> their films came up, so all the films would have a nice,
uniform
> >> > >>>>> look and feel. It would be fascinating to see what fresh minds
> >> > >>>>> would do with the Trek universe.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> That's actually a very cool idea! :)
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Thank you. Let's hope some eager young Paramont flunky is reading
> >> > >>> this group, and decides to steal my idea and use it for his/her
own
> >> > >>> career advancement. We might see some decent Trek.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> If only they actually would "steal" some (freely offered) ideas
from
> >> > >> fans. We would all be better off.
> >> > >
> >> > > They are legally prevented from doing so, AFAIK they could get sued
> >> > > if
> >> > > they do that.
> >> > > Which is why none of the authors ever frequent these NGs.
> >> >
> >> > But that is absurd! You can't patent/copyright a "concept"!
> >>
> >> That depends on how detailed you make it.
> >>
> >> You obvious can't patent "device to breath underwater", but you can
> >> patent / copyright "device to breath underwater utilising sponges and
> >> grape jelly". Anyone who then makes a product using sponges and grape
> >> jelly for breathing underwater could be in trouble.
> >>
> >> Apple Computer (among others) patents concepts galore, many of which it
> >> never uses or has any intention of using.
> >>
> >> If you were to described a detailed storyline that then later turned on
> >> on TV identically or "close enough", then the person claiming it as
> >> there own would be in serious trouble (assuming you can prove you came
> >> up with it first).
> >
> > There you have it, the definitive answer form "Anybody" (he's so
s-m-r-t)
>
> You know, I never had a problem with him until he started calling me and
> others (on a different group) trolls, just because we did not agree with
> him. Now, I look at what he writes and feel bad for him. He obviously has
> nothing to do other then bitch and moan about anything and everything.
Indeed... and apparently he knows how to produce and write (and probably
cast and act in) TV shows too. Just ask him.
--
Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179878 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 10:07 |
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"Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:P%blf.50609$ki.17958 [at] pd7tw2no...
> "80 Knight" <80_knightREMOVEME [at] rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:_fOdnegbmbefswjeRVn-uQ [at] rogers.com...
>> "Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:Vd9lf.50021$ki.11822 [at] pd7tw2no...
>> > "Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
>> > news:061220051819158374%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
>> >> In article <wqedncS7J4PxhgjeRVn-hg [at] comcast.com>, ToolPackinMama
>> >> <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Keeper of the Purple Twilight wrote:
>> >> > > On 2005-12-05 21:17:51 -0600, ToolPackinMama
> <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org>
>> > said:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Al Smith wrote:
<Snip>
>> >> > > They are legally prevented from doing so, AFAIK they could get
>> >> > > sued
>> >> > > if
>> >> > > they do that.
>> >> > > Which is why none of the authors ever frequent these NGs.
>> >> >
>> >> > But that is absurd! You can't patent/copyright a "concept"!
>> >>
>> >> That depends on how detailed you make it.
>> >>
>> >> You obvious can't patent "device to breath underwater", but you can
>> >> patent / copyright "device to breath underwater utilising sponges and
>> >> grape jelly". Anyone who then makes a product using sponges and grape
>> >> jelly for breathing underwater could be in trouble.
>> >>
>> >> Apple Computer (among others) patents concepts galore, many of which
>> >> it
>> >> never uses or has any intention of using.
>> >>
>> >> If you were to described a detailed storyline that then later turned
>> >> on
>> >> on TV identically or "close enough", then the person claiming it as
>> >> there own would be in serious trouble (assuming you can prove you came
>> >> up with it first).
>> >
>> > There you have it, the definitive answer form "Anybody" (he's so
> s-m-r-t)
>>
>> You know, I never had a problem with him until he started calling me and
>> others (on a different group) trolls, just because we did not agree with
>> him. Now, I look at what he writes and feel bad for him. He obviously has
>> nothing to do other then bitch and moan about anything and everything.
>
> Indeed... and apparently he knows how to produce and write (and probably
> cast and act in) TV shows too. Just ask him.
Of course he does. Yet, I have not seen him offer one good idea on how to
improve Trek, or anything else he bitches about. Not that I read all of his
rants, just the ones I stumble across.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179879 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 10:22 |
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"80 Knight" <80_knightREMOVEME [at] rogers.com> wrote in message
news:O-adndqE8PAnyQjenZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d [at] rogers.com...
> "Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:P%blf.50609$ki.17958 [at] pd7tw2no...
> > "80 Knight" <80_knightREMOVEME [at] rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:_fOdnegbmbefswjeRVn-uQ [at] rogers.com...
> >> "Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:Vd9lf.50021$ki.11822 [at] pd7tw2no...
> >> > "Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:061220051819158374%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> >> >> In article <wqedncS7J4PxhgjeRVn-hg [at] comcast.com>, ToolPackinMama
> >> >> <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Keeper of the Purple Twilight wrote:
> >> >> > > On 2005-12-05 21:17:51 -0600, ToolPackinMama
> > <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org>
> >> > said:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> Al Smith wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>
> >> >> > > They are legally prevented from doing so, AFAIK they could get
> >> >> > > sued
> >> >> > > if
> >> >> > > they do that.
> >> >> > > Which is why none of the authors ever frequent these NGs.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > But that is absurd! You can't patent/copyright a "concept"!
> >> >>
> >> >> That depends on how detailed you make it.
> >> >>
> >> >> You obvious can't patent "device to breath underwater", but you can
> >> >> patent / copyright "device to breath underwater utilising sponges
and
> >> >> grape jelly". Anyone who then makes a product using sponges and
grape
> >> >> jelly for breathing underwater could be in trouble.
> >> >>
> >> >> Apple Computer (among others) patents concepts galore, many of which
> >> >> it
> >> >> never uses or has any intention of using.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you were to described a detailed storyline that then later turned
> >> >> on
> >> >> on TV identically or "close enough", then the person claiming it as
> >> >> there own would be in serious trouble (assuming you can prove you
came
> >> >> up with it first).
> >> >
> >> > There you have it, the definitive answer form "Anybody" (he's so
> > s-m-r-t)
> >>
> >> You know, I never had a problem with him until he started calling me
and
> >> others (on a different group) trolls, just because we did not agree
with
> >> him. Now, I look at what he writes and feel bad for him. He obviously
has
> >> nothing to do other then bitch and moan about anything and everything.
> >
> > Indeed... and apparently he knows how to produce and write (and probably
> > cast and act in) TV shows too. Just ask him.
>
> Of course he does. Yet, I have not seen him offer one good idea on how to
> improve Trek, or anything else he bitches about. Not that I read all of
his
> rants, just the ones I stumble across.
Heh heh, indeed.
And according to "Anybody" the only way to improve Trek is the deaths of
Berman and Braga 'cause they're to blame for *everything.* Oh and stop
"Hollyweird" recycling ideas (and making them better) like the re-imaging of
Battlestar Galactica. (IMO the best and most enjoyable Sci-fi series since
B5, oh ya and season 4 of Ent)
--
Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179880 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 11:47 |
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Keeper of the Purple Twilight wrote:
> On 2005-12-05 21:17:51 -0600, ToolPackinMama <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> said:
>
>> Al Smith wrote:
>>
>>>>> Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of
>>>>> ten limited budget Trek films by different well known directors,
>>>>> and run them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors
>>>>> do whatever stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek
>>>>> special effects team at the disposal of the different directors as
>>>>> their films came up, so all the films would have a nice, uniform
>>>>> look and feel. It would be fascinating to see what fresh minds
>>>>> would do with the Trek universe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's actually a very cool idea! :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you. Let's hope some eager young Paramont flunky is reading
>>> this group, and decides to steal my idea and use it for his/her own
>>> career advancement. We might see some decent Trek.
>>
>>
>> If only they actually would "steal" some (freely offered) ideas from
>> fans. We would all be better off.
>
>
> They are legally prevented from doing so, AFAIK they could get sued if
> they do that.
> Which is why none of the authors ever frequent these NGs.
>
This is also why I have posted in the past that people shouldn't post
good ideas; the producers can't legally use them. So we should only
post really bad ideas, thereby forcing the producers away from drek.
Anyone care to see Trek 90210? It would be brilliant.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Singer Considers Trek Movie [message #179884 ] |
Di, 06 Dezember 2005 18:02 |
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Anybody wrote:
> In article <wqedne67J4NRvQjeRVn-hg [at] comcast.com>, ToolPackinMama
> <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Anybody wrote:
>>
>>>In article <YLudneV5YKiEngjeRVn-qA [at] comcast.com>, ToolPackinMama
>>><laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Anybody wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article <AIGdnYII1ZVUfwnenZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d [at] comcast.com>,
>>>>>ToolPackinMama <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Know what Paramount should do? They should comission a series of ten
>>>>>>>limited budget Trek films by different well known directors, and run
>>>>>>>them as a miniseries on television. Just let the directors do whatever
>>>>>>>stories they wanted to do. They could put the Trek special effects team
>>>>>>>at the disposal of the different directors as their films came up, so
>>>>>>>all the films would have a nice, uniform look and feel. It would be
>>>>>>>fascinating to see what fresh minds would do with the Trek universe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's actually a very cool idea! :)
>>>>>
>>>>>It's actually stolen from the novels
>>>>
>>>>What a weird thing to say. I can't imagine what you mean.
>>>
>>>It called "Strange New Worlds" and has been run for a few years now.
>>
>>The very idea of an anthology is not new, dude.
>
>
> Good grief! :-\
>
> Not the "anthology" part - the part about getting different people to
> write their own Star Trek stories.
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from dictionary.com:
an·thol·o·gy Audio pronunciation of "anthology" ( P ) Pronunciation
Key (n-thl-j)
n. pl. an·thol·o·gies
1. A collection of literary pieces, such as poems, short stories, or
plays.
2. A miscellany, assortment, or catalog, as of complaints, comments,
or ideas: “The Irish love their constitution for what it is: an
anthology of the clerical-nationalist ideas of 1936” (Economist).
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